[quote=KabenSaal] Ahh, Skyrim Wabbajack. I was talking about Oblivion Wabbajack. It turned one monster into another for about thirty seconds, and could really mess you up. [/quote] I never finished Oblivion. I got the bloodgrass glitch and the next quest in the story required staying the sun for several hours. I also had nothing in stealth so I couldn't drink blood to survive the few hours. I rage quitted so hard that I immediately sold the game in my rage. [quote=Jangel13] fair enough, I would like to point out that normal bulls (our bulls) are color blind so they don't see the red a matador uses they are actually just poked and prodded to being pissed and let loose on the first thing they see. the fact the matador has a red piece of cloth on a stick doesn't really matter as much as it gives the bull a target to chase......not saying anything about Edgar just though I could teach you guys something new :) [/quote] I already knew that, but I couldn't resist the humor of the situattion.