See, this is exactly what I mean. Something negative about independence? Immediately completely dismissed as scare-tactics and lies, as some conspiracy on the part of Westminster. "Cameron forced them to say that. It's lies. Don't listen to anything negative, guys, don't think about it, ignore the experts!" Jesus. And I'm not laughing at the idea of the suffering of the Scottish people. In my view, anything that discourages independence is benefiting them. I'm laughing because of the blow to the Yes campaign, which I'm averse to on multiple levels, and because of Salmond's complete incompetence in dealing with the setback.