[quote=vancexentan] I'm sad to admit I got the game too and it's just a mindless grind fest like Dynasty warriors if you didn't play unless there's something I'm missing. I got the game out of curiosity on what it could be like and was disappointed with it ultimately. [/quote] I don't understand it at all. Etrian Odyssey IV was fun even if it was a grind fast because you felt like you were making slow progress. I like dynasty warriors because you got to kick the shit out of foot soldiers and then have epic duels with officers. But with this you make a baby? and go dungeon crawling? Wut? I'm just gonna go back to theatrythm.