[quote=Raen Elvarasi]Geez. Your furries are real assholes about everything, Kad.[/quote] No just IC Raen. You DID accuse them of being grave-robber. Ergo, they REALLY don't like you. [quote]And you might have noted why I gave the suggestions I did. Strong chargers in the front, with a defensive line right behind them, with the equivalence of a cannon backing them, then two scouts and a fighter nearer to the back. Raen chose to take the back, because he is a more diverse fighter, and with the creatures we face, a direct assault is the least likely, as was demonstrated earlier by the Scuva. [/quote] Yes, and? [quote]If you leave your ranged fighters in the back, they become vulnerable. It you put them in front of a Centaur, which I am guessing has a height clearance a few feet taller than a human, and an extra torso between it's legs, as well as a Minotaur, you make it a complete cluster fuck.[/quote] And if you put them in the middle with both heavy hitters in front you make the ranged fighters literally irrelevant to a fight. As in, they CANNOT fight because they have a big Minotaur AND a big Centaur in front. [quote]If you take the time to think it through, they are not going to be the fastest of the bunch, simply due to their size and builds. It also means that you have a friendly obstacle to overcome before being able to engage in combat as you normally would. [/quote] Yes. Take the time to think about it Raen. You seriously suggested putting the two biggest blocks to visibility and ranged fire in front. And saying "they're not the fastest of the bunch" is just plain ignorance. [quote]Thus why I suggested you two being at the front. Smaller Humanoids have an easier time maneuvering in smaller spaces, and tighter clusters. And seeing how they have shields(Trom, Nyla, Florence) they make for better defensive players. Same reason the ogres in Lord of the Rings were not the back backliners. They were used for pushing siege weapons and breaking through defenses. A Minotaur, and a Centaur, both of which are creatures famed for outlandish rage and a nack for charging, even when it is completely unnessecary, should not be put in the middle of a group.[/quote] A: Gryffs Strategy doesn't put either in the "middle" of the group. It puts them at the front AND back where their heavy hitting stature can come to play against an attack from either direction buying time for squishier objects to redirect to the pressed area. B: Gryffs strategy, unlike yours, doesn't blind the ranged combatants from ever participating in an attack from the front. [quote]And the set up is more or less meant for universal means. It would work both in open caverns or tight corridors....Anyway, that is my little rant. :P [/quote] Your strategy wasn't bad. And there you have the reasons for mine. But the MAIN reason that Gryff and Murd opposed your strategy above all other factors is simple. It was Raen that suggested it :p Out of character, your strategy wasn't terrible except for your placement of the two Mercs given the issue of blocking any chance of ranged fire. As for our 'cannoneer' he needs to be out front for both A: a clear field to select and fire at the best possible target and B: Because no sane (or even insane) individual trusts a guy with a blackpowder weapon. :p I should know, in the last LoR I had two Goblins with Blunderbusses :p (Neither survived in the end, but they weren't the main characters, Xixis was.)