[quote=QuietThinker] Don't push too hard against the mods. Especially against something that isn't honestly important...And I don't think they are being all that unreasonable. Suspecting and unsure is different from knowing with a glance, and that is what they are giving you. And I personally think is more realistic. [/quote] It wasn't a glance though. She was studying and ticking off a mental checklist of based upon her initial feelings. Throughout their entire conversation, she is listening, has looked her over more than once, and has SEEN the "masculine" chin and jaw. Tess showed it to her. For someone that is suspecting and believes that, how is that not conclusive enough proof? Yes, many things are taken into effect, but there are TOO MANY things that don't add up for someone as sensitive to this as Quinn. She asked to confirm something, which is something you guys seem to gloss over. She ASKED. She didn't walk away, knowing and just leaving it there. Vaguely, yes, but it is still a question that she will expand upon in her next post. Even if Tess denies it, she is still going to believe that unless she is given strong evidence to the contrary, just as she is given strong evidence supporting her, even if you guys are downplaying the importance of mid-op physical attributes for a male transitioning to a female.