[quote=So Boerd] 1. So, what, Europeans are guilty by "corruption of blood?" Unconstitutional. Why don't we have anti-Aztec affirmative action or pro-Scandinavian affirmative action in Southern Greenland or pro-Neanderthal affirmative action everywhere or pro-European affirmative action in Mongolia? History is history. I'm Asian, mind you, and we Koreans didn't have it easy.2. Colonization was not a zero-sum game. Can you honestly tell me that the African tribes, some of whom had not even invented the WHEEL, mind you, would be better off today if nobody brought technology to them? [/quote] So Boerd you're suggesting slavery had positive outcomes. Step and consider that thought for a moment, and ask yourself, is that really an argument you expect to catch favour with those of us whose grandparents and beyond suffered because of the ramifications of such? I mean, seriously mate. BTW: I'm Puerto Rican. My mother and her parents before her were born on the island formerly known as Borikén and their roots go back centuries. Our history is blended. Our ancestors, the Taíno, a branch of the Arawakan people, were the original inhabitants of Borikén and one of the first populations Columbus came upon. He didn't bring the wheel though. He actually managed to wipe out about 80% of the Taíno in less than a century. Those who survived fled to the mountains or were enslaved and raped by the Spaniards or forced to reproduce with the African and other Native American slaves. Would we be better off today if no one brought us technology? I don't know about that, but I do know there'd probably be a whole lot more of us. Also, again, read what I said above. [quote]As a Puerto Rican I know that a majority of my ancestors were wiped out or enslaved, then raped and used for cattle. Simple fact. While I don't view every pale skinned person as Hitler as you mention, I do notice the huge differences in the way I am treated compared to my pale skinned counter parts, and I'm very anxious when having these types of conversations in a room full of white people. All too often is the response defensive, as if we're talking about you, when we're talking about a systematic problem. Ending racism means everyone needs to swallow the bitter reality that we've taught some fucked up things and even if it sucks to admit it, we need to change that behaviour. That simple.[/quote]