[quote]So Boerd you're suggesting slavery had positive outcomes. Step and consider that thought for a moment, and ask yourself, is that really an argument you expect to catch favour with those of us whose grandparents and beyond suffered because of the ramifications of such?[/quote]

Korean here, I'll hold my "historically abused" credentials up against anyone else's, including a still existing Russian-installed state that is the most brutal in history. You imply that I am saying if I were doing it all over again in the 1500s, I would advocate slavery. Of course not. That is an absurd and baseless allegation. But it cannot be denied that as a consequence, writing, the wheel, and numerous other inventions were introduced. (Yes, I know paleolithic was not universal). Was it "worth it"? Hell no. But it happened.

Therefore, Africans were not materially held back by Europeans and are entitled to no material compensation now, even if I accept this antiquated "corruption of blood" argument used to condone Jewish genocide.