[quote=So Boerd] Surely someone wise and gifted as you are would be able to multiply the black crime numbers in your own source (FBI souce) by around 6 (85%/15%) to see that blacks per person commit far more serious crimes, which explains longer average sentences. Now, if you'd like to start providing sources for tougher sentences for first time offenders?As for the racist justice system, let me give you an old-fashioned proof.Premise 1: Racism means wanting to inflict the maximum suffering on minorities feasible. The American justice system is racist.Premise 2: Black-on-black crime and white-on-white is more common than black-on-white or vice versa.Premise 3: Sending a criminal to jail precludes or severely inhibits them from committing crime.Premise 4: The justice system gives black violent offenders stiffer sentences than white.Premise 5: Multiple people being murdered or violently assaulted is worse than one going to jail.Contention 1: The racist justice system will give lighter sentences to blacks who murder blacks than whites who murder whites so they may murder more blacks. (Premises 1, 2, 3, and 5)Contention 1 stands at odds with Premise 4, therefore one premise in contention 1 or Premise 4 is false by contradiction. As premise 4 is allegedly empirically validated by Lum, one premise in contention 1 is false. Which, Lum? [/quote] You act as if your contention is somehow at all logical and befitting of the premises, and thereby some kind of law that has to be fulfilled by every single premise in order for any of them to be correct. I don't even know what you're trying to argue beyond to say that what Asta is saying does not coincide with YOUR OWN idea of the justice system.