BB:Yes Skepic:Its alright, these tend to be a bit confusing in the beginning [quote=The Captain] I'd intended to be China, Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, and Singapore but that all seems to be pretty core to your ... ultrastate(?).I'm a bit concerned with the sheer scale of these states, given the context of disastrous war, and so I'm probably going to adopt a wait-and-see approach to making a nation. You'd think state size/organization would devolve rather than evolve, especially in such potentially fractious regions as those that've been carved up already.In any case, I'd potentially choose Indonesia/Australia/Singapore. [/quote] Those are pretty core. Onto the super-states thing, I feel as if disastrous conflict tends to make nations more unious. After-all it was WW2 and the end of it that brought about the EU.