Oh, I see. Because of their mutual "Outlander" lifestyle, I dig. Alright, thank you. Maybe the strife comes from the simple fact Cub's basically a city orc then? I don't know how much you know since my CS was lost to the ravages of time but he's essentially Kill On Sight to "True" orcs if he removes his helmet meaning he sticks to cities and traveling in groups, a notion the Ashland Loner might disagree with?