If Viral wanted to fight a bit more seriously then Yumi would gladly indulge him. She would still stick to basic martial arts, it just meant she wouldn't pull her punches as much. Maybe that was what had him all upset, her going easier than she could be. Figuring this was what he wanted she put a bit more force into each hit, coming at Viral like he had her. The retaliation was short lived as she had found herself on her back after abruptly being grabbed, pretty darn confused how that had happened. Okay, she [i]really[/i] hadn't thought he would be capable of that, all things considered. Getting to her feet she eyed Viral curiously as she was not sure at all what was going on here. There was little time to question things as Viral wasn't through, coming after her with more heavy blows. Rather than try to block Yumi simply began dodging around, having to move in earnest to avoid these. Either sparring was really helping him or something was very off, she hoped it was the former. Finding the distance between herself and the wall ever shrinking she took one glance back before frowning, knowing she had to move. Waiting for one of Viral's punches to come in she ducked under it, putting a hand on his side and trying to push him away as she darted past him, moving for the middle of the room.

"I know, I know... We don't know how to help him though," Takeshi mumbled with a frown, pushing around a bit of food on his plate. "We tried helping him a few different times and nothing's changed. If there is a way to help then that floating spirit guy needs to come out and say it." Except hadn't he already? It was hard to remember, that spirit hadn't been the most clear thing to speak to. They probably did have the answer and he was just forgetting it in a very inconvenient brain fart. Though he wanted to lie to Shu and say T'charrl was fine it was just that, a lie. Transforming probably did hurt the Kaesstrian, it wasn't exactly a walk in the park for Saiyans. Takeshi could vaguely remember one of his own transformations, it felt like a sudden onset of growing pains, emphasis on the pains part. "He's tough. Even if it does hurt a little bit he'll manage. And we'll be around to help him." Or they would try to be. Takeshi reluctantly acknowledged that he and Shu weren't around for T'charrl much as they could be, when they probably should be near constantly. Maybe when they were through here he'd slip the idea to his brother about going to pay their friend a visit instead. Getting asked about how the moon changed a Saiyan was a head scratcher for him, namely since he'd not bothered to pay attention to the explanation before. Why would he when he didn't have a tail? Kai knew though and was happy enough to enlighten both Takeshi and Shu on the matter. "So that's how it works... Makes sense, I guess..."

"There's ways around it though, tricks that we can use," Kabocha added, smiling as he wiped his mouth with a napkin, "Like that Power Ball technique. We can make our own moons if we need to for transforming. Only thing that sucks about that is it uses up a ton of energy, but I guess it's worth it to get the power of Oozaru." It was a fairly simple technique to use too, all three of them could probably make use of it if need be. There were plenty of issues in doing so though, the least of which was how much Ki it took to generate. If you weren't strong enough it was hard to control your Oozaru form, though it was a curious matter with Shu in that regard who should be plenty strong. Plus there was the whole vulnerability bit. Everyone knew a Saiyan's tail was a weak spot, unless you trained it to avoid that. There was always getting it severed though which was insurmountably easier when the Saiyan turned into a massive monkey. "Honestly I don't think I've ever transformed before, never needed to. We're all fine on our own, Oozaru just seems kind of like a liability to me."