[quote=darkwolf687] racial traits are fine. However, if its declared that strong ability in it is "rare" then it should actually be rare to have powerful magic users.I wouldn't say duck lacks creativity as much as he simply doesn't like leaving his comfort zone. [/quote] Definitely agree here. I just suggested that if the entirety of the human fleet got together and attacked the 100 or so fleet the EU has in Sol, they might win, especially with my dreadnoughts that are basically sniper rifles with broadside weapons. Here's what duck said on the dreadnought matter: Doge Duck: Wellllllllllllllllllllll Keyguy: I've got six or seven by now Doge Duck: Iscandarian Dreadnoughts are much bigger then your average Doge Duck: Thats why they take so long to build Keyguy: Duck Keyguy: I already assumed that Doge Duck: A regular battlecruiser is about the size of wnat most consider a Dreadnought] That's Duck saying that a battlecruiser of his is exactly as large as the biggest vessels a civilization that has colonized an entire system thoroughly has ever constructed. Here's another jewel: Keyguy: One question Keyguy: How many ships are there laying back with the dreadnought? Doge Duck: 6 Doge Duck: [b]And there all massive and will rape your ass if you get close[/b] Keyguy: That's why you don't get close. Doge Duck: What are you going to do? Keyguy: Human dreadnoughts are basically gigantic sniper rifles that can fire giant blobs of plasma Keyguy: except they have broadside cannon Doge Duck: Iscandarians have really strong shields Really strong shields. REALLY. STRONG. SHIELDS. I say my six or so dreadnoughts have plasma accelerator weaponry that's definitely capable of doing significant damage to some ships, and the response? "Uhh... they're like, better." This is what I heard after I suggested that the humans might be capable of winning: Doge Duck: I HAVE PLANNED THIS FOR A FUCKING LONG ASS TIME Doge Duck: AND YOUR GOING TO FUCKING RUIN IT Keyguy: Okay then, what happens after you take over Earth? Doge Duck: Reform Doge Duck: Extermination of the rebels Doge Duck: Strict right standards Not that I can read minds, but that really, [i]really[/i] sounds like an excuse. You can decide for yourselves, but it doesn't take that long to plan three broad things. Given that every Iscandarian is exactly the same in their views and those are pretty well-defined, it doesn't take too long to figure out what those reforms and standards would be. This next one can speak for itself: Keyguy: You do realize that Fergus is gonna be mad, right? Doge Duck: Yes Keyguy: And that he's killed hundreds already? Doge Duck: But Faust will come talk to him Doge Duck: And calm him *Sigh* This is the start of the argument (The most recent one, that is): Doge Duck: so Keyguy: Hey Doge Duck: are you telling them to pisss off Keyguy: Does the Dreadnought have hangars? Doge Duck: No Doge Duck: And A 101 ship fleet is going to overpower ANYTHING the Terrnans have No, definitely not! It'll bet there aren't windows either, or any slightly misplaced subatomic particles. You also have to love how the first thing that gets said to me after I get an answer is "Oh yeah, I WIN". A slice from the direct predecessor to the argument that just happened, this was recent as well: Doge Duck: Favor please Doge Duck: Tell the guys in orbit Doge Duck: The new contact Doge Duck: Jeddevans race Doge Duck: To back the fuck off Doge Duck: Tel them that you wanna fight this own your own Keyguy: Why would the humans do that? Keyguy: Their current line of thinking is "Fuck the Iscandarians" Doge Duck: Because they think the can perserve Doge Duck: And they dont know the aliens so yeah Doge Duck: And I dont want them interveneing anyways To me, that sounds like "So yeah, these people who are offering to save the humans? Well, since they can totally destroy my fleet, have the humans refuse their help. I don't wanna lose." Any opinions? Am I right? Am I wrong? Should Duck be punished? Should I be punished? Should we both be punished? Should I dance in a clown suit on top of a checkerboard cake with chocolate frosting? You tell me. (EDIT: Forgot to say this, I think, most likely. Anyways, I was totally a dick in that convo too. I yelled a lot, I obviously though I was justified. I kind of had a breakdown, and imitated duck in a particularly insulting way. I do have a pretty short temper, but either way, that's what happened. Duck asked me to tell you something, and being the smartass that I am, I'll do it in the one way he definitely didn't want me to do it: Doge Duck: Oh and the whole telling you not to ask for help Doge Duck: Was a joke Keyguy: ... Keyguy: Duck Doge Duck is now Online. Doge Duck: It was Doge Duck: And so was the Faust thing [url=https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8&q=sarcasm]See? it was all just a joke.[/url])