[quote=Raineh Daze]
First one doesn't work because Ghost Rider set a precedent. The second one simply delays it.
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I think Flamelord was trying to say that they can't die outside the Trials, not that they can't be killed at all. Ghost Rider was killed during a Trial. It's still possible to say at this point that everyone's temporarily immortal when a Trial is not in session.