[b]Saber[/b] The acceptance of the fact that sometimes you would have to kill for the safety of others was not lost on Vash. But he was firmly clinging to the idea of saving everyone. Saber was not sure what to say. The noble intent of saving everyone involved certainly resonated with her, but she knew very well that there were some who took such evil actions and enjoyed them, and others who would not stop unless they were killed. Perhaps, if two groups of enemies could be stopped from harming one another without bloodshed, then the action could be taken to stop them. But that was not always the case, and Saber had met those who would commit horrendous evil purely for their own benefit, or worse, their own enjoyment. And then Archer told his story. It was a sad story, a story Saber had heard once before, and understood. It was a story close to home, given her own hardship, and it was the tragic tale of Archer's life. A path that had worn him down so much that he had once tried to destroy any possibility of such a fate occurring again. Though now, she could only hope that things were better for the tanned man, as he vanished into spirit form. ... Sorin's response, though... "If destroying one evil draws out another," she began, "Then the second evil must be destroyed as well. Perhaps innocence is subjective in some ways to some people, but to protect those who are in need, who do not perpetrate acts of evil, that is what a hero does. A knight's duty is to conduct themselves with honor and protect those in need. A king's duty is to serve and protect the people they lead. I don't believe this can be done without death, but it is simply what is right." And, in fact, there was more... for the moment, Saber's argument changed entirely to focus on Sorin, instead of Vash. "To simply abandon these ideals would be utterly and completely wrong," Saber continued, eyes slightly narrowed, "No matter what happens, I will hold to this ideal. It is what a hero and a ruler must do. Someone who completely abandons their ideals and betrays them is far more broken then someone who holds them with themselves." --- [b]Jakuzure Nonon[/b] ... What was with all the debate? Nonon shrugged. Wasn't it pretty straightforward? Geez, it was pretty irritating, hearing all the dumbass moralizing coming out of those guys. Especially the guy who summoned vampires and looked like one himself. Sheesh, what was with this all? Instead, Nonon decided to turn her attention to the newcomers. Some guy in a suit, and... some other random guy. Yeah, sure, they totally looked like tough and valuable additions to the group. In the same way that watching paint dry totally looked like it was fun. Maybe they had more up their sleeves or something, Nonon didn't know. "So some business guy and a hobo now?" she asked, rather loudly, "Gee, I'm sure they're totally prepared to fight dragons."