[quote=caliban22]
So those are easy to master, but are these things with/ Jedi already know? Or from the start are we just gobbers so to speak.
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Push pull and what not all Jedi Initiates learn from the very start. So I'd expect all the Jedi to know. I haven't looked at your Siths history but I'd still expect the Sith to start with the basics. Unless you've changed to Jedi now... as I said I'm just doing Force Powahz.