[quote=Wilson Turner] AND you evade the fact that you're thinking completely naive and stupid. Duck, I'd love to not have a permanent grudge against you, but you speaking and acting stupid doesn't help. You could certainly be an excellent writer with excellent ideas and stories- you just apply yourself to powerful, perfect peoples, repetitive word choice and just about as much military imagination as a twelve year old. You made a race that has power within every single person, with great expansionism and powerful armies, the most powerful army in the roleplay besides the "Ancient" types, such as the Etherals and hiveminds- and even then, you've beat them. I dunno about TehAlphaGamer's, but he isn't being stupid about everything. He's not invading people, he's not really messing with anyone. [/quote] I don't know how to respond to the naive and stupid thing beyond saying that it is a poor debate tactic and just makes it look like your attacking your opponent rather then trying to shoot down their points. The hiveminds, as Dark have said before, have a very odd variance in tech amongst their forces. Most of their ships are gotten from really low-tech civs, so there pretty shite in the long run. The Ethereals also have a severe allergy to magic, not of my choosing. Even then both times I have beaten the Ethereals it was at a great cost. The first time a good portion of a Sazkarjhit fleet was damaged and a lot of defense stations were destroyed, and the second time it cost a expensive ass prototype ship and a significant amount of fighters, as well as severe damage to a expensive top-of-the-line research station. I haven't expanded much at all, and my armies aren't the most powerful. War against Sazkarjhia would be long and difficult, and wouldn't have a clear victor as both sides would likely loose a lot. [quote=Wilson Turner] Duck, you keep making peaceful perfects and start warring with people. You've fought the largest Etheral fleet, you've tried to conquer Sol, you've probably got one of the biggest fleets in the roleplay, and you've got endlessly loyal subjects who will follow you off a cliff until the bodies are so high that there's a bridge. Then they'll keep going until the very last person can make it all the way around the planet without following, wondering where everyone went. [/quote] Not entirely perfect, they could be considered a bit arrogant, which I would say is the greatest flaw anyone could have, and they do have a few more. I did indeed fight the largest Ethereal fleet, with the support of two Sazkarjhia assault fleets and the lucky fact that they have a severe allergy to magic. I do not have the biggest fleet, that either Sazkarjhia, the Ethereals, or most likely the hive. I started off with 600 ships and currently have about 750, and will have a 1000 soon. That has mainly come because they have been attacked by three separate forces. Nor are my people endlessly loyal, or otherwise they wouldn't be displeased about the 3 Immortals decisions regarding Sol, or the unmentioned Imperialist Rebellion on New Alas. [quote= Wilson Turner] Nouvelle is Space Africa. Valkians confined themselves to one system, despite the ability to leave it, and keep crimerate and such down by the fact that everyone can see everyone. The Terrans are spaceborne, but they are not able to leave their system, and still conflict with themeslves. The hiveminds are somewhat inactive on the overall scale. The Sazkajhia are powerful, but they don't mess with anyone, invade anyone, and are generally just some nice militarized peoples who keep their home systems unknown. The Iscandarians are magical people that are all so loyal that they'd watch their taxes go to war and back again without any complaints at all. The Merfolk have made contact with almost no one. [/quote] See above, Iscandarians aren't entirely loyal. They do have a degree that they support the Greater Good so such taxes would be fine with most, but most would still complain about it at most minimum.