If they're evenly matched, you never know. I hope not though, that can be tiresome. Yeah we use that too. I'll try adding a touch of vinegar tomorrow and see what happens. I did see those fancy pans with cups on tv, maybe someday someone will get me it for xmas. But we do have a great griddle pan we use for grilled cheese and eggs and pancakes, it's so nifty. It's gotten a lot of wear, I might get my parents a new on this year actually...which is cool because I had no idea what to get them since we're trying to downsize everything for the move. -takes a shot too- We need our babies happy and in love even though everyone generally wants to kill them. I should probably add that in the first post, about Snow putting a bounty on the group's head for treason or whatever cause that'll make thing really tense as they're traveling. :/