Ah, but ThatOneGuy, the thing is that Drakel, Prince, ravenDivinity, and Aeonumbra are right in this matter. We're in the dark, sure, but as Prince said the Guild [I]is[/I] in a stable condition. Yeah, if there's another Guildfall it'd be even more crushing than the first one, but some of us will never leave. I am one of those individuals. I was with the Guild for most of my 5 years RPing, and unless the site goes down permanently or essentially everyone I RP with (or at least those who make/enjoy the RPs that I enjoy) disappear, I sure as all hell ain't going nowhere. I mean, when Guildfall happened myself and several others already had a healthy RP and its community going. The Guild was down for a few weeks, and when it came back up, so did our RP. We stayed in contact and the moment the Guild was back and we got our posts back (which we did because we backed it up and everyone was determined to finish it) it came back. We finished that Season/Arc of the RP and guess what. The next season/Arc/RP is up now and it's healthy and it's going to stay that way. As long as there are several RPs in each section that are healthily running and the site remains up, even if it is finnicky, there will be (as several have said) a dedicated community of RPers who won't be going anywhere. Oh yeah, and a pretty website does not immediately mean you have a good community. Iwaku is [I]pretty[/I], but it's shallow and you don't pick a shallow woman to be your life partner, you pick the interesting reliable and trustworthy one. The people who leave are those who don't seem to get that. Oh and people have offered to donate money, Mahz has refused their assistance and stubbornly trudged on. So it's not the memberst hat is the issue. We just all need to be able to have one solid sit down with our amazing admin, (because he is amazing, deal with that) and figure out what we're gonna do. However, there's one thing about this, we can wait. The site will be fine for awhile. Move on. Hell, I know some who left and came back because they realized that even with its bad formatting and bare bones state, the Guild was still a better community. So yeah. Everything has flaws, learn to deal with them, or leave. We get it, there are issues and most of us who've been here more than a few days [I]know[/I] that. Get over it man. Your argument, while valid, is a weak one. Oh, by the way, I tried Iwaku for a few weeks (didn't even have to leave the Guild, I was on both, imagine that) and I discovered something. Starting a new RP over there without first spending dedicated time to the IRC chat, basically means your RP will fail, nine times out of ten. The types of RPs, the variety, and some other core things that Guildgoers love, are simply not there. Sorry bro, you just got stomped, for the fifth time. Know when to give up and go home. Ciao~ [B]EDIT:[/B] I decided to move this to the third page :P