[quote=Missy] How in the name of the goat god i worship, is ''Here are the issues, they are not that bad but they are here'' being antagonistic or un-constructive? This is exactly what i talked about, that what you call ''bitching'' is a way to push away issues and never do anything about it. This thread has very legit complains and trying to label it as bitch is just plain being an idiot. And a ignorant idiot that.''If you don't like it, quit your bitching and go'' is the kind of thinking that leads to plain old death of forums like these. Cause if issues aren’t addressed people will pack up and migrate to another site. something that nobody wants. [/quote] That part wasn't pointed at you. But it is true, these issues have all been brought forward time and time again to the Mods and such. Raising it again here, and there have been people in this thread who have blatantly bitched. But that's enough from me here. I've said what I had to say.