I've had some time to think about it. And some people to talk about it.. Looking back at these posts all I see is a flame that has burnt the forest apart. In all honesty the community relies on the people. The last thing we need to be doing is standing on our opinions and calling all the others inferior, that only makes the flames rise. I don't agree with what this topic has created. But the message the topic brought out I do agree with in my own fashion. The people starting this thread who you all are calling trolls and such are people who have been here for over a year and all. They see an issue and they wanted to throw it out there, how the ground was held, though, was awful. We argue like Democrats and Republicans. THIS ISN'T THE TIME FOR THAT. WE are the people of the community therefor we either make it or break it. As John F Kennedy once said [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLdA1ikkoEc] Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country .[/url] Don't ask what the admins should be doing for us, dont ask about the updates, ask what WE AS THE PEOPLE can do for this community in order to keep it going. THIS IS A TIME TO DETECT PROBLEMS NOT MAKE THEM.