[quote=Jorick]Your fanatical loyalty to Mahz is cute and all, but this is just plain wrong. Mahz is indeed a motherfucking adult who is capable of those things, but the argument being made here by the disgruntled folks is that he is failing in at least the 'taking responsibility' portion (due to the shitty condition of the site) and perhaps the 'making judgment calls' portion as well (due to him deciding to remain the only code builder of the site himself despite clearly not having the time or interest or whatever has kept him from doing it for months now). Every single soul on this site has the right to second-guess him, actually, because he's providing a service. It's called consumer feedback. Just because it's free (and by the way, this doesn't mean he's necessarily paying for us to have the site, he has ads on the thing for a reason) does not mean we have no right to say there are things wrong with it. If you were to ask for food and someone were to hand you a free rotten hunk of meat that does not mean you need to shut your fucking mouth and enjoy it just because it's free; you would be well within your rights to complain that it's a rotten hunk of meat rather than actual edible food. Same principle applies here, so please get off your knees and stop mindlessly fellating Mahz, thanks.[/quote]

The flaw in that is simple. Mahz owes us nothing. We owe everything we have built on the foundation of his site to him. Everything. Every community. Every friend. Every roleplay. Every epiphany. Everything. If it happened on this site, that is due to him. The flaw is that you expect something for nothing from a man with a life.

How about you get off your self-entitled high horse and stop self-fellating. I am no fanatic, I am a realist. The pragmatic viewpoint here is that you expect too much for too little from a man with other engagements. You feel lied to? He feels guilty. You feel entitled? You're not. You feel you deserve better? You already moved on, so stop beating a dead horse. The world does not revolve around you nor any roleplayer on this site. Understand your place, Jorick. It might not be here anymore.

Some people have pointed out that offering help and constructive criticism to a free service is justified. That, in fact, is. However, consistently pestering someone over it is not. There are an abundance of problems, there are; everyone knows. However, again, free service. How about you assess those problems in, again as I said, a different thread to see which the community requests more, then work on it with more haste. That's constructive. Half the posts here aren't even near it. Additionally, if there were places or things that could be helped, then there would probably be a way to do it, but you have to keep in mind that help isn't just help. You have to have a level of communication, dedication, knowledge, skill, trust, so on and so forth. Working on a site, working on coding, integration, etc. is something that two heads can cause more problems with than just one slow one. To anyone whom replied with "constructive criticism for a free service", I aim you at this: 

[quote=Prince]If you guys want to have different discussions, go make them. Go make them and have a constructive conversation over the site instead of debating over tangents on this one. That's not productive, its just circular debate where none of the Staff or anyone observing the thread can attain useful information by observing and assessing it. You all have voices to be heard, intellectual points to make. Go make them in way that will be intelligent, constructive and structured. What I see on this thread, at this point, is just pointless. The question was answered and beaten to death. Move on.[/quote]

I gave detailed instructions as to how to go on being constructive. How to voice criticisms positively. Don't you dare think that I don't believe feedback is an effective, constructive force. A thousand eyes are better than one, and that's what we have. I never said a free service was immune to criticism, so not a soul here has the right to say I did. Whomever misquoted me, and you can boldly take this to heart, may go [s]fuck[/s] yourself. If you quote me, you best use it in context and you best not only emphasize the parts you think are right or wrong. There is a cohesive whole and taking excerpts from it that drastically change the meaning of the text is detrimental and ignorant.

Saying the same thing a million times won't help anyone. Combating me, because I'm vulgar and tend to be insulting won't be either. I'm no paragon. I've never tried to be. I won't be, as a matter of fact. What I will tell you is that there are far more effective ways to do what you're doing, but you're not. As long as you're not, posts like these lose their value. If any of you were really interested in helping, you would have gone on to make your own thread, gather together a few people, and start assessing out the actual issues. That's effort. That's dedication. That's work, and that's the work Mahz has to do. If you want to help him, get off this thread, get off my back, stop sucking off Jorick and go DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE.