[quote]My favorite part of the circle jerk is the guy telling people to fuck off when he doesn't realize he is the most important part of the circle.[/quote]

I'd like to think of myself as the biggest dick in the circle. ;)

[quote]. If any of you were really interested in helping, you would have gone on to make your own thread, gather together a few people, and start assessing out the actual issues. [/quote]

And instead of requesting permission to help, I offer methods for you guys to do it now.

[quote]Threads are allowed to go on tangents despite what a thread and topic's opening post may be. Why would you think otherwise? Whilst the OP's post may have been decidely extreme and worded poorly, it doesn't matter what that might be if the rest of the thread has evolved into a discussion of other merit. That being criticism of how and what the administration does to run the site. As ASTA replied to you before, Prince, it does not need a new thread when this one suffices perfectly. [/quote]

Your lack of value to organization and focus is cute. ;) You're cute.

[quote] Mahz's general failings to communicate actively enough about what is going on with the site and his reluctance to look for help.[/quote]

Busy man is busy. I also went over why "looking for help" isn't an easy endeavor.

[quote]As far as Jorick goes,[/quote]

I was actually well aware of that list. But, as far as I go, someone should always play devil's advocate. To make any progress, intellectually, your comfort zone must be pushed, and I do so love to make people uncomfortable with their ideals.

You can lend credibility wherever you want, but none of you have addressed the content of my argument. You bring up new faults. You bring up new problems. Not single one of you will reflect inward to see some more. I never said Mahz was perfect or even that his actions are correct; I said that he was a "mother fucking" adult - there's a difference in there. Dance around the points as much as you want, attack them, degrade them, do whatever, but unless you address them, you're not even past the first step of solving them.