@So Boerd I guess I'm of the mind that we do something that hasn't been done to maybe remind Putin that this isn't okay. [quote=So Boerd]What is your issue with a very weak federal government whose only job essentially is national defense?[/quote] Crazy southern ideals --- @Dinh AaronMk I'm a huge fan of military operations that don't involve senseless death, but like, that doesn't even need to be military at that point, just fund humanitarian operations-- ¿por que tantos tanqes? [quote=Dinh AaronMk]So abolishing armies will not help anything. You're opening up a few doors that shouldn't be opened by trusting people to not extend themselves beyond what they're allowed and found this on trust. Economic and political sanctions can only do so much, so Putin is happily showing us in Ukraine;[/quote] I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on the trust thing, I AM an anarchist after all, if we were to have it in the way I really want it it'd be utter bedlam. [quote=Dinh AaronMk]he hasn't pulled out yet.[/quote] Hehe, Phrasing. This made me giggle. [quote=Dinh AaronMk]#RestoreCrimeanTatarKhanateInReperationsForStalin'sMassButcheringOfPeacefulPeople[/quote] Russia is rightful Mongolian clay Khan stronk. --- @TheEvanCat Long history of military helping out my family of minorities, I'm in a personal position to acknowledge that the things you're talking about are true. I almost certainly wouldn't have been born if it wasn't for the military providing a second option for a good amount of men and women in my family. I respect the help it can provide to someone who needs it and doesn't want to turn to things that could potentially ruin their lives. That being said, the military isn't solving those problems, it just acts as a band-aid. It helps, but it isn't going to heal all the symptoms of the problems it can help individuals with, and the money it costs to maintain the military (American) is a drain on the whole country, and ultimately only helps to create on a large sale the problems it helps some people escape. I agree with Vilageidiotx on pretty much everything, so I really don't want to rehash all their points (but I think needing a standing army could be argued, but again, that's just me, filthy anarchist scum).