[quote=22xander] Yeah, I'm just saying Xander isn't as much of a geek as he thinks he is. And he won't go down to easily, haveing an odd relationship with pain... But also, psychology he will be difficult to deal with, his mind works differently... But yeah, a physical character can easily beat him, I bet even Tia in the original could real easyly. Also..m sorry Duth :p [/quote] Well as you can see Dorian doesn't really want to "beat" him. He just like... You know... Get him to back down on certain things? Or at least think certain things through. Minus the being a jerk generally trying to teach and get him to see things in a bit of a different way is how I would handle problems with one of my little brothers. I don't see him much anymore, but it's the best I could think of at the moment for someone who may not think in the "usual" way. Ya get me?