[quote=thewizardguy] [quote=kishin asura] Well, since you said alpha, despite being an infinite force of creation, can create anything EXCEPT for outcomes and nonexistance, I'll just have to ask an age old question. Why is it so? Because according to you, alpha is an infinite force of creation. While the word infinite has many meanings, such as being endless, being immeasurably great, and extending to infinity, another definition of infinite is "not being subject to limitation" therefore, alpha CAN create all that stuff. [/quote] Creating nonexistence is the antithesis of creation. If Alpha can create nonexistence, then Omega can destroy it, thereby creating things. The process of creation is defined by the fact that it brings things into existence, so to create nonexistence is a paradox in and of itself. Creating outcomes isn't 'creating' things. In order to 'create' an outcome, Alpha would have to change your free will, and force you to make certain choices. However, Alpha can't mind-control people, and has no control over your decisions. An outcome isn't a thing, it's a state of affairs, a possible series of actions leading to a state. Alpha could create a universe which contained any state of affairs that would be created in an outcome, such as Genocide, dead, and you guys, voctorious. However, it could not force that image upon an existing universe. [/quote] Paradox or not, as alpha is omnificent, it can create anything with no limits. Speaking of no limits, omega is an infinite force of destruction. Infinite meaning no limits. And since once omega gets loose it'll destroy everything, based on the fact both alpha and omega are omnipotent in regards to their respective concepts, assuming it'll destroy everything, including nonexistance and itself, isn't too much of a stretch. I say this because well, consider the following. In order to be destroyed, something has to exist. Conversely, this mean it has to have been created in some way in order to exist. Try as you might, you cannot deny the fact that nonexistance does technically exist. It's true. In regards to the outcome thing, sure, I could believe that the alpha can't alter the free will of a living being. But what about altering the surroundings of said living beings?