[quote=@IncredibleBee] Guts as a character doesn't want to become an apostle, which is why it's a silly rule. Also it's weird to negate the powers of a really cool artifact. God Hand doesn't worry about that; they just grant Apostle-hood and talk about casuality. [/quote] Like I said, if you're not planning on using it it's fine. I just think dragging in everything involved with it would be kind of a mess.