[quote=ShadowVentus] Well, for me, I'm an arguer. I try to prove my point using words, but somehow, they always end up being right. Doesn't matter what I say. They're as stubborn as a mule. In fact, when I'm right, they make it sound like I told them the wrong things from the very start. [/quote] That's how it is when I do argue. So I shut up and figure if they're too stupid to listen, don't talk to 'em.