[@vilageidiotx]

I haven't been talking about Armenia-Armenia, though. I am not arguing the Turks would fight to the death to take back central Armenia. Central as in what we know to be Armenia in the real world. I am talking about the eastern parts of Turkey that are only Armenian depending on who you ask. That land has been Turkish for a long time now in the RP and the real world. That is what I am arguing they would fight for. I am not saying they would fight to the last man to take back Sevan. I am saying they would fight to the last man, or close, to take back.. I 'unno, Erzerum and that huge chunk of land Armenia took. And Istanbul. And what the Greeks took.

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[quote=@Dinh AaronMk]
And it was basically a five year war. Armenia's fight for independence carried on long enough to matter.
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This is the shit that we really need to be careful with. Look, I agree that commitment can sometimes be held above things like realism. It's okay if Googer has a fucking train get snatched by a plane because 1) it's cool and 2) he's googer and he's a big part of PoW, and we trust him. Plus that's a small, unimportant thing. But that doesn't mean we should excuse any nonsensical thing just because the player stuck around long enough to make it happen. If it's questionable, it's questionable and it should be called out. 

Mihn stuck around long enough to make Brazil impossibly influential and that didn't stop us from stomping it out, for good reason. It should be no different with other players. I am not saying we should stomp out what Evan has done, though. But "he stuck around so it's okay" is bullshit.