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I haven't been talking about Armenia-Armenia, though. I am not arguing the Turks would fight to the death to take back central Armenia. Central as in what we know to be Armenia in the real world. I am talking about the eastern parts of Turkey that are only Armenian depending on who you ask. That land has been Turkish for a long time now in the RP and the real world. That is what I am arguing they would fight for. I am not saying they would fight to the last man to take back Sevan. I am saying they would fight to the last man, or close, to take back.. I 'unno, Erzerum and that huge chunk of land Armenia took. And Instabul. And what the Greeks took.

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This is the shit that we really need to be careful with. Look, I agree that commitment needs to be held above things like realism. It's okay if Googer has a fucking train get snatched by a plane because 1) it's cool and 2) he's googer and he's a big part of PoW, and we trust him. But that doesn't mean we should excuse nonsensical shit just because the player stuck around long enough to make it happen. If it's questionable, it's questionable and it should be called out.
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We've called people out before despite them being involved. Honestly, Evan's falls pretty squarely in acceptability. Its more believable that the Pan-African Empire, honestly. 

And regarding Armenian populations, the important thing is who lives where. That's always the most important thing. And when talking about the Ottoman Empire, it becomes somewhat confusing. If we look at a map of who lived where in 1910, we get the beginning of a picture.

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/AsiaMinor1910.jpg[/img]

This would be after the first Armenian genocide but before the second. I don't actually know how brutal the genocides were in the RP's history, but even a shrunken Armenian influence would still put Erzurum in territory with an Armenian majority. Algeria remains a good roadmap. There were French settlers in Algeria who tried their damnedest to hold on to power, but when the war got ugly the mainland French lost interest in maintaining a bloody and costly war. 

When I drew the split up, I was mostly trying to make the Turkish situation look like something interesting. Istanbul being independent was dramatic flair on my part, but it was done based on the fact that he Empire had literally just split up a week before this thread started. There is clearly a conflict built into that situation that would turn into something, but somebody gotta join to make it happen.