[quote=@Wernher] Of course, thank your for the reply. First, I think I can call with certitude the revolution to have been very, veeeery destabilizing for Europe as a whole, the French monarchy, having ruled for a thousand years, being replaced by peasants with dangerous ideas about kings and emperors having no right to rule over the masses. In my opinion I'd think the revolutionary fervor would have spread to Eisenkreis as it did the rest of Europe but I can see the French interpreting this 'non interventionism' as weakness and a sign of submission, leaving Eisenkreis alone, if for the wrong reasons. It would also fit in history as to why the French survived without having its butt kicked all over Europe at the end of the war, without having to take care of Austria-Hungary, that leaves a lot more room to kick Prussian butt. I do not know if I have a monopoly over the whole revolution business but from what I think, since you cover Austria-Hungary and this country was known for being a racial and minority powder keg as it was still an empire covering many minorities, that even if France didn't intervene the revolutions would have rocked the boat a lot in the form of smaller ethnic based revolutions in the balkans for freedom from oppressors.[/quote] I highly doubt this "revolutionary fervor" would have spread to Eisenkreis or Kzechverin, since both states came about in a revolution against the prior ruling caste. Thing to note is that if they were to go in against Prussia, Eisenkreis could have been called in to assist, and then your war would have stalled there in the Germanic region. That's fully up to Taniel, however, as he plays the German Empire. [quote]1: A major war with France that occurred during the revolutionary era, caused by France acting paternalist in Europe and wanting to weaken Eisenkreis for the simple sake of weakening it so that if it isn't a menace now, so that it never will be (No matter how isolationist you might be, you are still a big chunk of territory with a lot of manpower.) The aim of that war would be to 'free the minorities of the balkans' and thus transform Eisenkreis in yet another minor german state with no power in itself. I'd like for France to have won, but that victory could have had no meaning, a white peace with terms that Eisenkreis never actually followed but that allowed France to say that they had won and turn their attentions elsewhere. (Exemple: France forces Eisenkreis to have a parliament... which fills itself to the brim with royalists at the first election since they think the King does a good job rather)[/quote] This is a decent proposal, though at this point in time, Eisenkreis is a stubborn and stuck-in state, much like Switzerland, and invading them would inflict some terrible losses upon the French. Beyond that, unsure why they would be seeking to "free the minorities of the balkans" as Kzechverin has largely been warring and bringing things upon themselves, through their attacks against the Polish, and even two separate wars against the Ottomans. Back to the point, I could see this as the most likely of your proposals, though more with a truce being struck since one side could not gain ground, and the other one refused to leave their own lands. [quote]2: The idea of maintaining the status-quo in Europe gets Eisenkreis to remain neutral and pressure smaller german states to do so as well, with this the coalition collapses and Britain and only watch France from the other side of the Channel and not do a thing. Since the entire Europe doesn't league itself against France, France doesn't have much reason to go berserk and mainly concentrate its hate at the british (like always). Although I'll admit I think this is a boring idea.[/quote] Like the first, this one is very likely to have happened, especially with Eisenkreis holding title of Holy Roman Emperor for what it maters. [quote]3: Napoleon tears Eisenkreis a new one and crumbles the entire thing into small republics easy to manage from Paris, the Eisenkreis nobility is temporarily exiled. When Napoleon dies and France almost goes in civil war, the nobility uses the distraction to make a triumphant return to their homeland and reform Eisenkreis without much opposition after a short interregnum, even more popular.[/quote] This one is highly unlikely, due mostly to the military power of Eisenkreis/Bohemia/Kzechverin, and because even /if/ they were to lose so handily as you propose, they would never accept such a peace. The region would be in turmoil, and consistently attempting to throw off French rule. When/if the two nations were to reform, they would also be completely different than what I've already created here, and honestly, that's pretty off-putting just for the sake of past interaction. I'm not against past interaction, in fact I would encourage anyone to do so if they think they could do something interesting with an event between their nation and Eisenkreis/Kzechverin. What I am against, however, and the reason why I initially stated my objection, is to involve me without saying anything first.