[quote=@Lucius Cypher] Sure, might as well. I suppose that if Vis was at the Grey crossing first (Malakaus was there for at least sixteen years considering his daughter was more or less raised there since birth) he could have helped Malakaus set up shop and gave him his job at the mine. And thanks to Malakaus's nose for metal, eventually got him promoted to overseer. They also likely collaborated on large projects together like the village's wood mill and smelter. Vis is also the one who likely made Malakaus's adamantine Pick-Axe. Malakaus himself can work more mundane metals like steel and gold and such, but something like Adamantine is beyond his ability. Not only that but Malakaus is a [i]Jewel[/i] Smith, not a weapon smith. His ability to even work on other things come from his experience in The Grey Crossing rather than any former training prior to settling down. [/quote] I don't think that will work, if that were the case and I was there before you, I would have been 17 (my age 33 subtract your daughter's age, the time you spent in town) and that is the age I left my village to go adventuring, I assume I arrived at the age of 25, 8 years into your stay.  So how about I helped you make your operations more efficient? A better gear assembly for the sawmill, since I'm handy with gears and better casting channels and basins so you lose less metal and make more ingots. I would use the money from those endeavors to start up my smithing business, you probably would have taken it as a bit of an insult -probably because you wanted me to work for you, so as a show of good faith I made you your pickaxe.