I give up. If you're not going to listen to me at all, stop asking my advice. The second thread doesn't work if all we do is move four people over into it. Have you even SEEN the roster? Besides, half the characters in either guild ignore each other for friend in the other one. If you separate Harpy and Vyper again, all you're doing is forcing those people apart. If you DISSOLVE Harpy and Vyper, you allow those people and the people with friendships inside their guild stay together in a new guild. The only thing you're giving up is the NAME, not the people.