[quote=@Earnest Evans] I must have misinterpreted what information we were given, my apologies! But yeah, I'd say trying to keep such an obvious endgame goal as "unambiguously evil organization wants to destroy the unambiguously good organization by collecting Macguffins" a secret was a silly move. [/quote] Well, I can safely say that Cinder has her own evil plans to follow through on, which will probably end up conflicting with other peoples even within the Shadow Eternity. But then, conquest and reshaping civilization in your image tends to do that