[quote=@ScarlettWaters16] Can we just stop talking about it? It is annoying honestly. It's probably just not to me. [/quote] I think it's actually a good discussion, provided it remains civil and doesn't escalate. It seems to me that main issue isn't the Patronus itself. Yes, there's instances of it in canon of school age witches and wizards casting corporeal patronuses in non-stressful situations. However, the thing is. We got to see the process of them struggling and learning with it. The issue comes in when in opening IC post, someone uses such a complex charm for such a trivial task. It sets a precedent for the rest of the RP that some may be uncomfortable with, especially considering there is no background or context for the character even knowing that charm. Just some justification by others after the fact. Some people may be uncomfortable with that precedent, and it's their right to address it, considering they have part in this RP as well. I personally have a problem with it myself but can't really say much as Tatsua seems to have made any point I would have made, though admittedly a bit more aggressively than I would have (which is cool, you do you). That said, it's proabbly best at this point to wait for some input from Tip, but just not talking about it won't help anything. EDIT: Geez, did I really miss 39 IC posts over the weekend