[quote=Etcetera] No, you need to change their thoughts. Sit them down and tell them, "Okay, this isn't working out," and tell them exactly how you feel. It seriously works, but make sure you word it correctly, and they'll give you more leeway. [/quote] Dude, I won't tell many people this, but I actually cried when this current punishment first started. I sat down and talked with my Dad, pouring my heart out and everything. When it was all said and done, he said this. Exactly this. "Dude, if you don't hate me sometimes while you're young, I'm not doing my job."