[quote=Valiance] Dude, I won't tell many people this, but I actually cried when this current punishment first started. I sat down and talked with my Dad, pouring my heart out and everything. When it was all said and done, he said this. Exactly this. "Dude, if you don't hate me sometimes while you're young, I'm not doing my job." [/quote] That's the worst parenting philosophy I've ever heard.