[quote=Valiance] Meh. It's a quote based on discipline. But I get discipline. I just think my dad overdoes it. Feels more like obsessive punishment for fear I'll do something especially stupid. [/quote] I'd seriously love to have a talk with your dad. We'd see who would win out in the end. I've said so before; I don't let anyone pick on my friends, whether it be family or Internet people.