[quote=@Skallagrim] No that is a fallacy. The gun owner has no more control over there shot than an elf with an arrow, or a wizard with a lighting bolt. Your samurai argument is invalid. The samurai does not control magical forces, does not move at faster than human speeds, fly or any other event that characters in arena role-plays can do. If you are fighting a realistic fight then it comes down to cover and fire to win. If you are fighting against a character that is beyond human then the gun and it's properties are just as valid an attack as a spirit attack or having an immortal who has mastered untold forms of combat. Ultimately you never have to fight anyone with a gun. It is an age old argument since the beginning of chat room combat. There are plenty of fantasy fighters to satisfy you, just as there are tech fighters to fill my whims when I need them. [/quote] Well, it's not invalid, because I am also a complete incompetent with a gun, can't move quickly, don't have superhuman accuracy, etc, so we're effectively at the same tier (potentially he would be even higher.) and I'd still almost always win. I don't understand your point about the lack of control however, if the person launching an attack can't choose how they're attacking and then gauge their success at pulling off an action (not landing an attack, but performing it) then I don't see who can. It would be a little bullshit if the person being attacked could throw off your aim by essentially controlling your character and just saying they missed their target. It is a cyclical debate though, I believe it's just best to set up characters around the same genre, tech v tech, magic v fantasy, it's better for all involved. It only really becomes an issue in tournaments, with forced match-ups.