[quote=@mdk] Just to keep your expectations level, that's the same thing most future Army civil engineers say right about now. If you want to be the best, be the best, and that'll help your chances. Personal experience says, manpower vacancies can help too -- pipelines are opening up as we step up our SOCOM game. But that pendulum swings both ways and you never know when the window closes. [/quote] Hah, engineer, that's funny. And I know not to get to cocky about getting in, I'm gonna serve for three years before I try out though so I'm not a greenhorn. Hopefully there will be some combat experience so I don't look like a complete tool.