[quote=@Cyclone] Yeah but then Hael kinda switched his vote and Willy did say he'd prefer the slow tension (which I presume to have meant not the island thing)...I don't even know which idea has more support now. I'll stop being petty about it and trying to sway people to my side; if Willy and Hael clarify their positions then I'll just accept whatever that leaves us at. [/quote] My position is still island bomb, but -as I said- I don't care that much either way. They both sound like decent ideas. Anyway, I gotta get my history up and you crazy people are distracting me.