[quote=@Multifarious] As my mom and I agreed. [/quote] Why don't the two of you talk him out of thinking it? Is he really so stubborn as to stick to a rule if he's the only one satisfied with it? [quote=@Mammalia] I know a lot of families who either used to or still have that rule. It's sad. Well, I meant that he would be obligated to listen to them. This wasn't made out of a religious bias, it was made out of my observation that normally, people consider the word of the leaders of a church to be important. But I would suppose that if it makes him mad it's not the way to go. This is really a bad position. A father should never be so adverse to listening, but when he is, your options for action besides prayer deplete to almost zero. [/quote] That doesn't make it any less of an idiotic rule. Obligated to listen, perhaps, but not to change.