[quote=@Lugubrious] Agony was fun to watch? We must be into different things. Then again, over 60% of women use epidurals, so they don't get a taste of it, either. [/quote] I imagine there is still pain. I personally wouldn't risk an epidural. Do you know how close it is sticking a needle in your back to being paralysed? I wouldn't trust a doctor for that! Or any human!