[quote=@Caits] I imagine there is still pain. I personally wouldn't risk an epidural. Do you know how close it is sticking a needle in your back to being paralysed? I wouldn't trust a doctor for that! Or any human! [/quote] Hmm, then you're cool with an animal doing then, right? Probably a monkey or ape since they do have thumbs compared to other animal like a dog or bird.