[quote=@Caits] I don't care for needles but I don't mind getting them. They shouldn't have done they. They should have taken it out and tried again. They could have seriously done bad damage [/quote] As I've actually done the needle thing before, I'd like to say we were told it isn't a HORRIBLE thing to do, but that if you can't find a vein in...I think it was thirty seconds, to pull it out. Was probably less. [quote=@soren] -grows them back instantly- Apparently not everything [/quote] Wonder which hurt worse...