I find it funny to see a character that has a host of hand to hand skills. Usually I’ll talk with the person and then we’ll agree to a realistic hand to hand spar. Once that happens usually the player either knows nothing, or very little about the particular combatives their character has. While I don’t know as many as I would like, I do know more than enough that when I start fighting in close and the person starts to pull anime moves outta their ass, I know they have no clue about what they are doing. Mostly it is silly things like the cinematic martial arts they see in movies or anime that they think will work in a fight. I remember one fight where we were fighting in an ally and the person was on one side of a pile of debris and junk. One of the things placed there in an opening stance post was a bunch of desk drawers stacked up. The guy ran at me and jumped into the air too execute some sort of spinning kick. He ran up the stacked desk drawers to get height so I just knocked the drawers out from under him. That caused problems then I told him ok I’ll let the move happen, since I had picked up an expended fire extinguisher in a prior post, I side stepped and smacked him with it. He never responded after that.