[quote=@BBeast] [@Elitestpotato], And I'd like to say that Torrens by default outputs fire as ordinary fire, unless he wills it otherwise, which obeys standard physics and carries ordinary thermal energy. So Edict may be resistant to fire balls or fire bolts or flame shields or the like (since the only way those would hold shape is by magic), but if Torrens just unleashes an inferno Edict's going to roast. In my opinion, the Empyrean (set to instant incineration) would burn either just the shield, or all of him, depending on the intensity. [/quote] Ah, but you forget that Edict has studied demons and therefore would know at least somewhat about Torren. You don't think he has dealt with that kind of fire before? He's not just going to instantly combust and that's the end of him.