Who else did he train with that really gave him trouble? Sure, Shu was hard to hit, but he never really took a pounding from the little guy either. While it was frustrating that he was having a tough time of it Takeshi had to admit it was fun too. Even with only having landed a small number of hits himself he felt like he was having to change how he fought a bit, try to improvise and be a bit sneakier with his attacks just to get through. After managing to catch Kiton in the gut with a knee he backed off to avoid a counterattack, grinning excitably. "Eliminate weakness? You really are new to this kind of stuff, aren't you? You can train just for fun you know, especially when you're with friends," the Saiyan responded, his smile flipping as he placed his hands on his hips, "You're kidding... Right? You think I'd mock you?" Oh wow, he really was serious wasn't he? Was that what he thought this was all about then, sort of a pride thing that he absolutely had to win? Sure, Takeshi wanted to win too, but he'd not really be [i]that[/i] bothered if he ended up losing today. Sighing to himself he ran a hand through his hair, reluctant to be having to have a conversation when they could keep training. "Look... We're doing this for fun, it doesn't really count for anything. Sure I wanna win, but it's basically a game, you know? We never think less of anyone if they don't do as well in training, that just means we help them train more, you know?"

"Of course I do, I was a child once too, believe it or not," Aito remarked, chuckling before giving Viral a kind smile, "And I've made countless mistakes in my life, I've been a laughing stock and I've been dragged through the mud and berated for them too. I'm no stranger to being mocked, but I've come to use that as reason to work harder and prove those people wrong. And I'm certainly not saying you're childish for what you did, you've grown." A parent recalling their child's early life was as natural as breathing, and he would always try to retain some of those precious memories; June probably even recalled more than he did, she had spent more time with the boys overall. Hm, perhaps then it was a good idea to bring her by sometime, let her try her hand at sharing some memories. "Humanity has become complacent due to the commodities of everyday life, I suppose. Philosophy isn't really my thing... But if I had to venture a guess I'd say those skills were "forgotten" because there's really no need for them any longer. That being said there are most certainly humans who live like that, and I do believe if pressed most could survive, albeit to varying degrees of success. I'm curious though... Why the questions about human survival? Just because of the memory with Vegeta?"

Haku was kind of having fun with this, even if all he and T'charrl were doing was standing around and talking. He was getting to learn some new things and see a new world, for him that was a great way to spend a day. "I don't think your kind is unusual though, I mean... You're different from us, sure, but then so are hundreds of other races of people," the Saiyan remarked, shrugging his shoulders as he ran a hand along a petal thoughtfully, "It's just there's so many kinds of people in the universe, so saying it's because you're different isn't fair, right? And... I don't think you're disgusting, I don't think the others do either." Takeshi did have that weird fear or whatever, but he figured that was a rare exception to the rule. No one else freaked out around T'charrl, and while their group might not be lining up to hug the alien that didn't seem like hate. Haku knew what it felt like to be hated, he could tell no one here genuinely disliked T'charrl. "Well... Our tail let's us change, for starters. Kind of how Shu does, but a little different," Haku explained, glancing back at his own hind and noting the lack of a tail, "I had mine clipped... They said I didn't deserve mine, but yeah, most Saiyans have them. And you can kind of use it as another limb I guess, if you really wanted. So they're kind of handy."