[quote=@Lugubrious] You're telling me that because you apparently know more than I already, after barely any debate, that I must believe you without sources? I must confess, I've never seen the list of 'human rights' outlined anywhere other than the US Constitution. The one you quoted intrigues me. I suppose 'dignity' means 'health'? People are starting to die in Australia, where socialized medicine has been the norm for a while. So few people are paying into the system, and so many are riding on it, that the government has no money to pay for all the health care and benefits are getting slashed. This information I received in part from a fellow guild member, Caits, an Australian citizen. Please, no need for crass language. I don't remember saying 'free' health care. I know it's not free, because it costs money. That money is paid via taxes, by employers and employees alike, and in some European countries up to 50% of income is taken in taxes, perhaps more. The government then covers the residents. The chart you've cited is 'proposed', and for two years ago. The current administration hasn't passed a budget in years, just continuing resolutions, and here's the current one, from an official site: [img]https://chart.googleapis.com/chart?cht=p3&chs=600x200&chco=cc0000,4040ff,00cc00,cc8800,66cc00,0088ff,00ff70,ffcc88,808080&chf=bg,s,e8e8ff&chd=t:26,27,4,22,10,1,2,1,1,6&chl=Pensions%2026%|Health%20Care%2027%|Education%204%|Defense%2022%|Welfare%2010%|Protection%201%|Transportation%202%|General%20Government%201%|Other%20Spending%201%|Interest%206%&chtt=Federal%20Spending%20for%20United%20States%20-%20FY%202015[/img] That's more on both health care and pensions than defense in the US. [/quote] [url]http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/#atop[/url] Articles 1, 3 and 25 might be interesting for you. 25 is even the right for medical care. Also, the German budget is about 300 billion Euros. Today that would be about $310 Billion. The US requested budget for 2015 is $3.9 Trillion. 22% of that is a lot. We have 11% and an unemployment rate of 6.2% decreasing very quickly. [quote=@Lugubrious] That's more on both health care and pensions than defense in the US. [/quote] And that is bad why? Isn't it the main task of a country to provide the best quality of life for their citizens as possible?