[quote=@ArenaSnow] As an american, I think the US has a lot of issues. That said, I'm damn well much better off than a lot of other people can claim to be. All the doomsday talk about the US taking all our rights and in the end, we're still here bitching about it. When the government can shut down people for saying stupid things, I'll take a closer eye, but for now, I leave it to more intelligent folks to dissuade blatant myths. [/quote] I think the point is that the issue is leadership, and the soldiers themselves are stuck in the middle. Iraq was a shitty war fought for shitty reasons, but that reflects way more on the government and the attitude of the American voter than it does the soldiers stuck in the middle of the thing. Though ones who act on their own to massacre civilians are evil motherfuckers. Fuck those guys. When it comes to the country in general... we got a lot of blood on our hands, and I would rather see people get melodramatic about it than pretend that America can do no wrong, but... it could have been a lot worse. Our best quality is the fact we grow disgusted in our own Imperium so quickly, and that people like Dick Cheney don't get romanticized like they would have in most historical Empires. I'm looking at you Britain, with your cute poems about machine gunning down all the natives. On the other hand, we don't have national healthcare... that is a pretty embarrassing blot on our honor.