[quote=@mdk] in my water survival class we had to swim a mile in full BDUs with boots, *or* swim 50 meters underwater in the same gear without coming up for air. I did both. Because I'm the boss. But interesting trick -- you can tie your pant legs in knots, and turn them into a life preserver made out of pants. If you want. [/quote] I did not know that. Than again all my swimming skills were gained in sport related activities and not survival. Sometimes I wonder just how fucked I'd be of society collapses because I have like, no survival skills at all. I don't even know how to start a fire.